English Freemen standing in court ~ No Jurisdiction proved
 

This is for a Council Tax Liability Order hearing in Cwmbran Magistrates Court in South Wales, There were 14 Freemen in attendance.

The court was never convened as the Freemen never handed juridiction to magistrates or the clerk by standing up when ordered to do so and the magistrates never sat down.

The magistrates twice abandoned the court (the ship) and it was the Freemen who called the Police and at one point the Lay advisor can clearly be heard calling attending Police Constables to arrest the magistrates for impersonating judges.

There were many criminal acts committed this day by the company personnel (Magistrates, solictors, security and the clerk) and Police complaints are under way pending prosecutions for Fraud among other things.

But for the real shocker of how these people think they are above the law ...

Watch until the end!

http://vimeo.com/10211543

check out the 2nd video to the right as well....

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That is the most amazing legal footage I've ever seen...
I wonder how one would go about accomplishing this in a U.S. court?

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In a US court? ...LOL.

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Truly a stunning piece of film - makes you think

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This has been discussed in great detail at GIM and the naysayer's require court record proof of the concept of common law jurisdiction from a commercial court :4_1_72:

The fools do not understand, there will be NO court record of common law jurisdiction, there is only court record proving their commercial jurisdiction over you when you identify yourself as the legal fiction on your birth certificate.

The court's "record" only begins at the point of the court's jurisdiction.

Your birth certificate is the "person" charged.









Next up, the 911 "truthers" jump in to discredit me and protect the court's truth ...

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Maybe by first asking the judge if he's on oath and making him/her show it.

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It works exactly the same way, the only difference is the legal verbiage.

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This is outstanding. I had a dispute down here and I sent a bunch of letters with the issuer and the enforcer. Now I had a pretty good argument but my last letter to the enforcers stated that I did not wish to go to court and I wanted to sort it out administratively. I have wondered if it was what I wished for or my argument that sorted it. Meaning I was not interested in subrogating to the court. Going with the argument for now..... because it was pretty solid.

Outstanding video. The truth is out there. Some naysayers around here need to see this. There's nothing to loose and everything to gain.

hang on.... he still gets an order BUT the order lacks a table with fees. Is that it? hmmm wery interwesting

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Just watched the second video. I'll say one thing. They'll never teach that in law school.

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Then how come they don't send the birth certificate to prison? Personally, it's not that I don't believe common law doesn't work, but it's obviously convoluted and a simple mistake can change the entire end result. Can you read a textbook and know how to do a heart transplant or build a satellite and put it in geosynchronous orbit around the earth? I'll bet you all the pm's you have that you can't. So how can you expect someone to read common law and take on the irs? Considering the attitude (arrogant, loud, know-it-all, conceited) of common law advocates, such as you, I hesitate whether I want to be among your kind anyway.

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:mad_m:

Can't believe I am seeing that video here!

Although the content is good to watch the "Lay Advisor" is a scamster through and through!

Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing!

Major Raymond St Clair is not what he makes himself out to be!

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He might wear a Halo but I detect BS. That or someone is running A gamemn on us.

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I don't feel that way personally however, it is difficult to watch people complain about being a person with no time spent looking into the difference.

You want to know more about Common Law study it, no loss there.:23_28_100s:

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I do admire Free Men On The Land.

In America, we busy ourselves with arguing about healthcare and the semantics of socialism... In america today, free is a word used to describe a fools parody.

http://openjurist.org/420/us/730/las...shirley-lavine

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I know nothing about Raymond St Clair, but I'm curious as to what you know about him...



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I think an easier question would be what "don't" I know about him.

If I were to present everything I know it would take up many many pages!

I will condense it to the absolute basics.

Best place to start is the motive:
http://thesecretpeople.wordpress.com...t-money-whore/

Important parts:
and

If his motivation was about Freedom and Rebelling aganst the system I would back him but I know it's not.
He is a MLM (Multi-level marketing) professional and has been for over 10 years.
He moved into that field after trying to sell fake feudal titles under the fake title of Lord Raymond St Clair of Huntingdon!

Let me just clarify though, I am not against what I seen happen in the video, I think it was great seeing the Court minnions flap about furiously when people would kneel to their supposed power.
However the aim of that video was to drive people to his site!

Once there he can then try and soften people up to buy into his MLM business or his Silver Business.

His Silver Business is wanting people to pay a $36.50 monthly subscription fee.

For that fee you get one 1oz American Eagle and e-mails about Silver. What's the spot price of Silver again??????

I could go on and on about his previous exploits and dodgy dealings of Major Raymond St Clair (yes that is the name on his Birth Certificate).

He isn't wanting to help people empower themselves to gain freedom, he is wanting you to visit his site so he can try to take money out of your pockets and put it in his!

Suffice to say he doesn't like me exposing his agenda and subsequently offered people �150 to find out who I am. Yes he put a bounty on my head.

This covers his past:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25396563/Raymond-St-Clair

Which he tried to get Scribd to remove saying I had infringed his Copyright by using his name! Thankfully I successfully fought off that DMCA take down notice.

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The term "resident" derives from an old roman word-term: "res"
http://ecclesia.org/forum/topic.asp?...29&whichpage=2
This (IMO) is incorrect: "Food for thought:

The 2010 U.S. CENSUS applies to RESIDENTS only as stated on both their short and long forms.

A Man or Woman is not a RESIDENT."

It might be better to claim to be the resident trustee of the trust. Ask Jet Graphics; he understands this better than I do.

Here is a common law forum: http://ecclesia.org/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=18

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My guess is it would require a sympathetic constable because otherwise they'd just haul your ass off to jail and throw you in with several big ugly desperate cons who manage to conveniently get hold of a toilet plunger. :headsand:

I don't know though, I've only been to court once and it didn't look anything like that video...

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Awesome video by the way.

I'm curious how it is that both you and JP have such apparent expertise in this subject?

Whaddup up wit dat, bro? :s1:

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Very true.

I think the the guys in wales had 14 people who went, so safety in numbers.

Also when you enter court you need to issue the relevant paperwork which lets them know in advance what is about to go down.

I know they commonly will move "Freemen" to a court with a sealed dock to address the jurisdiction issue.

There was a lad that done the same thing in the video and they locked him up for contempt of court (Darren Pollard) but was released a few days earlier.

Safety in numbers, staying calm and having the conviction of your belief seems to be the best way forward as is evident in the video.

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Here is another video posted from the same freemen regarding a police visit to his home. :applause_

http://vimeo.com/8692706

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They study Law?


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Speaking of the expression "freemen," written or verbal seems to exist only in old documents from before the 20th century. Hmmm, anybody know where it went here in the good old USA Inc.?

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I have a niece who's a lawyer. Got really good grades too. She works for the State of Arkansas and when I mention this stuff she laughs her ass off.

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I have been in a similar position all by myself. If you know who you are, then you can hold and fight all the way. If you have no clue who you are and lack principles, they will make mince meat out of you.

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Sure, why wouldn't she? She benefits from the status quo.

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lol, these dumbasses did not achieve anything "legaly" all they did was apply law. Hypertiger would understand, these morons do not. More luck than judgement.

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I love this shit!
I don't care whether there is any legal merit to this commercial court or not as long as it gums up the works and slows the machine down!

Resist at all levels!

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Of course she would laugh... she's an attorn-ey. (see attachments)





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Yeah, I have a buddy who also is a lawyer, he says it is nonsense and won't
even comment on it. That doesn't mean it's not true! Why the silence?

Just because you operate only in one plane of existence; doesn't preclude existence of others...

It's kind of like asking a race car mechanic to comment on the horse and buggy?

They are functioning in a different dimension of time/space.

I have filed a Common Law default against the court for a speeding ticket and
I had them shaking in their boots. I was a newby and took the easy way out,
I'm not so certain I'd do that now....but they were nervous (the clerk and the
prosecuting atty.).

The Two United States and the Law


by Howard Freeman

Our forefathers, weary of the oppressive measures that King George III’s government forced upon them, in common declared their independence from England in 1776. They were not expected to be successful in that resistance. The moneyed people had backed England for two major reasons. First, our forefathers wanted a rigid, written Constitution “set in concrete.” They were familiar with the so-called Constitution of England which consisted largely of customs, precedents, traditions, and understandings, often vague and always flexible. They wanted the principle of English common law, that an act done by any official person or law-making body beyond his or its legal competence was simply void. Second, the thirteen little colonies desired to base their union on substance (gold and silver) -- real money. They well knew how the despotic governments of Europe were mortgaged to the hilt -- lock, stock, and barrel, the land, the people, everything -- to certain wealthy men who controlled the banks, the currency, and all credit, who lent credit but did not loan gold and silver! [deja vu?] The United States of America was made up of a union of what is now fifty sovereign States, a three-branch (legislative, executive, and judicial) Republic known as The United States of America, or as termed in this article, the Continental United States. Its citizenry live in one of the fifty States, and its laws are based on the Constitution, which is based on Common Law.

Less than one hundred years after we became a nation, a loophole was discovered in the Constitution by cunning lawyers in league with the international bankers. They realized that a separate nation existed, by the same name, that Congress had created in Article I, Section 8, Clause 17. This “UNITED STATES” is a Legislative Democracy within the Constitutional Republic, and is known as the Federal UNITED STATES. It has exclusive, unlimited rule over its citizenry, the residents of the District of Columbia, the territories and enclaves (Guam, Midway Islands, Wake Island, Puerto Rico, etc.), and anyone who is a citizen by way of the 14th Amendment (naturalized citizens). One “United States,” the Republic of fifty States, has the “stars and stripes” as its flag, but without any fringe on it. The Federal UNITED STATES’ flag is the stars and stripes with a yellow fringe, seen in all the courts. The abbreviations of the States of the Continental United States are, with or without the zip codes, Ala., Alas., Ariz., Ark., Cal., etc. The abbreviations of the States under the jurisdiction of the Federal UNITED STATES, the Legislative Democracy, are AL, AK, AZ, AR, CA, etc. (without any periods).

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Good for you! With my last visit to the court house for a "traffic infraction" I had made a plea of demurrer. Before even presenting the prosecution's case, they had to prove I was subject to motor vehicle law. Unfortunately, the prosecutor's star witness could not get to the court room in time and the case was dismissed, although the Judge allowed nearly 3 hours to do so.
No points and no fines.

I really wanted to have a trial to see if I had prepared myself well.

The Great Ag

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Because the secured party creditor claimed to be that "person" (defendant) establishing the courts jurisdiction over the living man.

This admission usually begins with the arresting officer ...

The "person" then became the security for the courts bond.

A performance bond.

They send the bonded collateral to prison (demand performance) if it loses its case, all by its own consent, by its "volunteer" (signed) bonded contract with the court.

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She is a lawyer, who works for the State, and is in Arkansas.

I laughed my ass off three times.

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Well, I'm glad you found that funny Viking, cuz it was meant to be.:bear_rolleyes: